2017-10-30

Transcript of Michael Salla, Cobra & Unknown Lightwarrior on Ground Crew Command: Part II


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Part I here


Part II

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah. Well, I want to get to that…uh…pretty soon regarding the various fleets that are still out there both good and bad. But what I want to do first is quickly bring us forward a fair bit in history and you know one of the most popular stands against bloodline rule, you know, these descendants of the pre-Adamites, if you will, has been the American Revolutionary War with the 13 colonies, you know, very openly bravely stood and said “no” to bloodline rule being led by positive Freemasons being the founding fathers but one thing that isn't spoken about and hasn't been given its due in terms of recognition - and a very under-recognized forgotten thing is the English Civil War that was fought in the 1640s - you know, Oliver Cromwell and his Parliamentarian armies against the bloodline ruling king at the time and, Cobra, maybe you'll have the answer for this. Is there any connection between…first of all was Oliver Cromwell's side of the English Civil War… were they actually influenced behind the scenes by either white nobility or positive freemasons and do any of these white nobility families and or positive freemasons have any connection to the American Revolutionary War and the positive Freemasons there with the founding fathers?

COBRA

Yes. Actually first I will speak about the English Revolutionary War. There was a positive influence of certain Rosicrucian groups behind the scenes and certain positive white nobility families. They wanted to do exactly that – to end the bloodline rule. This was their aim – and this was not as successful as they had hoped. It did trigger something…

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

It did succeed, but then eight years later - probably through black magic, bribery, assassinations, hexes ,curses, spells…. we know how they roll… they managed to claw their way back into influence and stick another - well in this case the Saxe-Coburg line –

COBRA

Basically it was not successful enough because the bloodlines still ruled behind the scenes or sometimes even directly – it was not what they hoped for so they - the Light Forces - created a more thorough plan which they carried out through certain positive Freemason groups and that actually started in France - in the year 1775. That was a decisive year because there were certain lodges created in Paris and St. Germain was the

force behind those lodges – in connection when Benjamin Franklin – that started this independence movement within the United States and the Constitution of the United States was stated in a way that if it would be completely respected, it would erase the Cabal from the United States. And this is why the Cabal is so allergic to the Constitution because it protects the sovereign individual and it protects the sovereign state based on a group of sovereign individuals and this particular project of the Light Forces was successful to a certain degree and without that project we would be in the Middle Ages right now.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah. Well said. Well that dovetails really nicely with my next question which is -

Napoleon Bonaparte - who was he really working for? You know, was it actually genuine attempts by - as I understand it - a positive French Freemason Lodge to throw off bloodline rule in Europe - and then the world for that matter - because of bloodlines colonized all the other continents by then? Or was it really just working for the Jesuits …

COBRA

Actually it was a war between Jesuits and the Rothschilds - and actually he was working for the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds were against the Church although they were working for the church - they were collecting the cash for Jesuits - but they had a strong tension with the Jesuits and they had their idea of unified Europe. It’s a Rothschild idea, basically, and this is what Napoleon wanted to create - the European Union that would be also a monetary union that would collect cash for the Rothschilds, that they would have to give it most of it to the Jesuits, but there was always a strong tension between the Jesuits and the Rothschilds and this reflected in the Napoleon Wars. And there were, of course, freemason groups that supported Napoleon and there were other groups that were not … that were supporting the Jesuits… and it was a constant tension there also.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. Okay. Interesting. Well obviously they succeeded with their European Union as we all know by now.

COBRA

We have to say that the Light Forces also benefited from this plan because the European Union is a two edged sword. It’s not all bad or good. It does promote… it can promote… under certain circumstances it can promote growth and development but it can also be misused. So what is happening now in Spain we all can see how this can turn sour.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. Go ahead, Michael.

MICHAEL SALLA

Oh yeah I was just gonna say that I do like to look at the kind of historical evolution of forces as being more a trinary kind of dynamic as opposed to, you know, two groups… two dominant groups and I think that one group - you know, the more positive group - does tend to work through just kind of implanting certain ideas or ideals into human consciousness and working with kind of gifted people to promote those ideas and, you know, I think to begin with I think Napoleon was overlighted if you like by these more positive groups with these ideals of self-determination and republicanism and that really did inspire millions all around the European continent. I mean that's why he was able to have, you know, those stunning military successes because he did get so much support from the peoples all over Europe and he had the potential to carry it into the Middle East and so forth. I mean he went into Egypt and but the reactionary forces did kind of step in and I think Napoleon - out of…. often…. just kind of good intentions thought that well the answer would be him kind of aggrandizing power around himself and so he became Emperor and I think that's truly when he went over to the dark side but I think at the beginning he did play a role as a kind of spreading these more evolutionary ideas and helped help republicanism and kind of self-determination take off in Europe and around the world in the 1800's .

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah. Because I have heard briefly here and there that it was you know a move to throw off the the rule across all of Europe of these incestuous royal families…. most of whom are, you know, the descendants of the so called - or some of them if not most of them descendents of the so-called pre-Adamites. So having said that I just want to get into another question for both of you. Did the 13 bloodlines - the black nobility – lose control of the Nazis and Hitler in particular to their quote, unquote, “enemies” the Dracos? Because we know about the Draco influence - if not major control - over the Nazis. Now the reason why I asked this question was again for the longest time we thought that those three pre-Adamite ships - these giants with elongated skulls - that crash-landed in Antarctica fifty… sixty thousand years ago…we… you know, I admit even I assumed that it was positive ETS that were chasing them across the solar system trying to end them. Understandably, I'm sure a lot of us assumed that. But no, it was the Dracos that that were chasing them all over the place… and chased them here as well… and it was then that many of us understood… okay, this is a long-established intense rivalry between two negative ET groups - and their descendants for that matter. So that's why I'm posing this question to either of you two. Was it a case that the thirteen bloodlines….black nobility…. did they actually…. Because initially they supported Hitler… they were financing him initially but then Hitler started to do… you know… not to approve of anything about them for heaven's sake but then he started printing his own currency so he wasn’t playing by the rules anymore and then of course we know about the close connections between the Nazi Secret Space Program and the Draco influence with that and that's where the two kind of merge. So I know that's a long-winded way of asking that question to either of you – was this the case? Did the 13 bloodlines lose control? Did they have control and then lose control of Hitler and the Nazis to their enemies the Dracos?

COBRA

Okay. The situation is a little bit more complex. It is not just about Hitler. It is about everything that was happening in Germany. And Germany is a very special case in the history of the 19th and 20th centuries - actually there was…before Germany was unified, there was a country called Prussia. And Prussia was part of the later Germany and that country had a very strong industry - it was scientifically very advanced and this is where the first secret space programs started in the 19th century already.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

The 1800’s you’re talking about?

COBRA

It’s 1820-1830, the first things moved already - long before they established it was all secret - it was a military department - it was a military secret program that very few people knew about.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

So was this even before the Franco-Prussian war of 1871?

COBRA

Yes. It was a long long time before – and the Prussian military was one of the most advanced militaries at that time - and what happened is that the Pleiadians saw an opportunity to introduce the seeds of a positive secret space program and they have telepathically contacted many people in Germany inspiring them to start building their own spaceships. And that was happening in the 19th century already. And of course the first prototypes were very crude – they did not work. And then in the beginning of the 20th century they have contacted Maria Orsic - and I hope you know we are familiar with the story of Maria Orsic. She was a medium. She was a channel. She channeled Pleiadians from the Aldeberan star system and she was invited in a certain group which is called the Thule Society and then later the Vril Society - and this is how the German secret space program started and first the Rothschilds infiltrated the group through Hitler. There was one man that was part of the group - actually one of the founders of the group - which was Rudolph Glauer and he called himself Baron von Sebottendorff and he was connected very deeply with various occult forces in Turkey and those forces were – I would not go much deeper into this - but those forces were steering the narrative since then and then we have Karl Haushofer - one of those Germans and he travelled a lot into the East and when the Chimera group – the Chimera group was of course watching all that development and when they saw that this German program which had a potential for a breakthrough - there was a real possibility they would begin building an operational spacecraft that will contact the Pleiadians and make a first contact which could be public – they decided to intervene. So they sent Draco factions from Tibet into contact with Haushofer. And Haushofer came back then to Germany - he was in contact with Hitler and this is how the – the green men - started to control Hitler. It was the Dracos. And Hitler signed a pact with the Dracos. And of course this was not the only group that was influencing Hitler. The Rothschilds were in play - the Jesuits were in play - you probably know about the big Jesuit pentagram of concentration camps so each of those factions have their own idea what will happen in that war. The Jesuits wanted to have concentration camps, the Rothschilds wanted to earn money. The Dracos wanted to control the planet through Hitler. The Chimera group wanted to control the quarantine and then the Pleaidians…. there is a story about the Pleiadians. The Pleiadians saw what's happening and they wanted to prevent the genocide and before World War Two the Pleiadians signed a contract with Hitler. They promised him technology in exchange that Hitler will not start the genocide but this was their last attempt to prevent the genocide. When this did not happen they cut all contact with Hitler and with the Nazis. That was I think in 1941 or 1942 and then the Dracos gave technology to Hitler. So it was actually a proxy war between the Dracos and the Confederation. Through this proxy war, World War Two, much of the galaxy was cleared. It was like part of the galactic war which had its anchor on the physical plane on planet Earth. And the Confederation had a partial victory and the Nazis had to go underground so part of them went to Antarctica and part of them went to the United States through Operation Paperclip and now we have the key Nazis controlling the United States. That's what's happening and this is the so-called Cabal. And they are of course merged with the bloodlines. Many of them belong to the bloodlines or now, of course, they work with the bloodlines.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

I see. Now, Michael before I get you in on that…I've always had let's just call it that Hitler was just showing just too much independence albeit within the yoke of the of Draco backing - if not complete Draco control… and that …like… I want to know the

position of the actual thirteen bloodlines in all this because I've always suspected that they lost control of Hitler and the Nazis and that's when they started funding and putting everything they had into the Allies – US, UK, USSR - to crush something that they lost control of. Is that the case? How accurate is that?

MICHAEL SALLA

Do you think that Hitler basically went off the script… that the bloodline families did set him up? The elites - industrialists within the Vril society that put Hitler in power thought that they could control him and when they found that they couldn't - that he was ready to kind of start these aggressive wars - they were prepared to move against him - that it's actually documented that - for example - Wilhem Canaris , who was the Admiral in charge of German military intelligence, and other German industrialists were ready to depose Hitler over the the Czech crisis and that they were caught off guard with the peace agreement that was reached between Chamberlain and Hitler because that basically strengthened Hitler's hand and so Hitler then - now his position was unassailable in the German political scene and he went on to invade Poland - and the rest is history. But I

think what happened was that because of his aggressiveness - and I think he was following the script that the Draconians were giving him that the bloodline families or the Thule society people - that they really put all of their stock into the Antarctica program and moved a lot of their people and resources down there and kind of like kept a lot of the developments down there away from Hitler and certainly didn't share the most

advanced technologies they had there, you know, which Hitler planned to use for the war effort. So they kind of denied him that … and in the sense that, you know, that contributed to Germany losing the war but then the Nazis did through Operation Paperclip… you know, they were able to infiltrate the United States and basically assert a Fourth Reich with the cooperation of the German elites or the German space program out of Antarctica.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, Cobra, last word on… what was it? A case of the 13 bloodlines - the black nobility - losing control of Hitler and the Nazis and then using and backing the US, UK, and USSR to crush him. Was that what happened? Was that the case?

COBRA

I don't see it this way. I see it… like they always do… they wanted a war. They wanted a conflict. They wanted…. because the Rothschild's were making money out of it. Everybody was gaining something for their objectives. They wanted this war and they didn't care about Hitler or the Nazis. For them it’s just one side of the conflict. And you know there were factories in the United States producing weapons for Germany for example… things like that happening… so it was in their interest for this to happen. It seems to be that when they saw that Germany will lose the war, they have flipped the script. They have just made a plan for a surrender of Germany… infiltration of Nazis in the United States…. removal of the most sensitive programs to Antarctica and everybody was happy.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, so they weren't… the black nobility, from their perspective, they weren't nervous about Hitler and the Nazis taking over when they're working for the Draco's… their longtime rivals for God knows how long?

COBRA

They were not nervous because they had the same objective although from a different perspective. It's like there's always rivalry between the Dracos and the black nobility but that rivalry is not like a question of survival. They are on the same page. The real conflict….the real polarization….is between the light and the dark forces. The dark factions actually many times they can agree better than the light factions.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah, yeah. I was about to say they often work together when it suits their goals.

COBRA

Exactly.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. One thing I do want to make sure we don't leave before we move on is who specifically - now the Holocaust as I understand it was almost strictly a Jesuit operation…

COBRA

Yes.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

If that's the case, who specifically did the Jesuits sacrifice all those Holocaust victims for?

COBRA

They were worshiping the entity called Moloch. And this is… they wanted to actually create a portal through which they would turn planet Earth into a dark planet. They wanted to reintroduce the Dark Ages… the Middle Ages, actually.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Hmm. Yeah, definitely. Okay moving on… here we go. Now, Michael, do you have any status updates or any recent information regarding the lower level - what David Wilcock has called the lower level military-industrial complex Secret Space Program, as well as the US Navy's role in all this? Meaning are they both one and the same thing or is the MIC SSP a separate faction from the the US Navy's SSP?

MICHAEL SALLA

I think that is the case - that the MIC or the kind of Air Force run Secret Space Program is very different to what the Navy had set up. I think the Air Force program really is much more focused on kind of Earth surveillance and monitoring nearby traffic and maybe some minor missions to the moon… maybe to Mars… but you know using their TR3 craft…but I don't think they have the most advanced technologies, technologies involving kind of interstellar space carriers and, you know, with crews that are on these 20 & Back programs that that's what the Navy has been doing for decades now but I think what we are seeing at the moment is the slow rollout of the Air Force SSP that this is what they want to do because I think that they feel that in rolling out that program, that they're going to get more funding and that maybe they'll get better technology because I do believe that any…due to compartmentalization… that the Airforce Secret Space Program people aren't aware of what the Navy has achieved. And you know and while I think that, you know, due to inter-services rivalry and compartmentalization, they don't believe the Navy has a space program. I think there is a suspicion that this is real - there have been some credible people that have come out and just most recently there's a person who's just come out - I mean just yesterday actually - the first interview video interview was released of Michael Gerloff who actually was part of the Space Marines - but he did serve in a 20 & Back program and what makes him different to the other 20 & Back people who have come out is that he has a lot of documents that he has made available to be released and so over the course of this video series that I'm doing with him I'll be releasing more of these documents and they show that he was someone that should be taken very seriously and I think he is the catalyst for many more people who served with for the Navy space program to come forward and I think that's going to lead to the Air Force disclosure narrative to kind of shift to broaden a little bit because I think they're gonna realize that they've been manipulated as well.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

I see, okay. Well it's great to hear that you you are continuing to collect evidence and then proof in testimony on video and so forth. That’s really great to see.

COBRA

I have a few things here to say about the situation. First about this new whistleblower that came and his documents…. there was a certain document called Mars-GRAM and I have to say this has nothing to do with planet Mars – it is simply a military auxillary radio system. It's a radio system that some radio amateurs can use to support the military operations and it has nothing to do with planet Mars. I have to say that. Also, another thing that I need to say is that the Navy's Secret Space Program was supported and still is supported by the Galactic Confederation. I would say the concentration applied within the Navy space program is much higher than in the Air Force Space Program and so we again have this tension which is a part of the…. I would say proxy war between the Chimera and the Confederation – the Chimera group trying to steer the narrative through the Air Force space program and the reason why the Air Force is so much focused now on increasing the Low Earth orbit activity and increasing the military presence in the Earth orbit because they are afraid again of the end of quarantine status. They are afraid of so-called quote-unquote “invasion” of the Galactic Confederation. They have actually issued some memos about this.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, okay. Is it true that the lower-level MIC SSP that I believe is controlled by a positive faction has recently built and used in combat advanced spacecraft every bit as good as the Dark Fleet’s and the Draco fleet’s? And the example that you'll both know about is – I think it was January 2016 - when the Dark Fleet tried to take off from Antarctica carrying a significant number of actual cabal members trying to get off the planet - and they were attacked by those Chevron shaped craft which is believed to be lower level MIC SSP.

COBRA

Basically, the U.S. is not the only country that has a Secret Space Program. Also the Russians and the Chinese have their own space program. And I would say the positive Alliance is supporting the Chinese and the Russian space programs quite much.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, okay. Michael, do you have any…

MICHAEL SALLA

Yes. Similarly that's the information I got - that those ships that were used in Antartica against the Dark Fleet - that they belong to the Earth Alliance and that the Russians and other nations within the BRICS Alliance were responsible for that. But that's very different to the Air Force program. I’d say that the Airforce doesn't have that kind of advanced technology - that their technology is still very primitive compared to, you know, what the Corporations have up there and what the Navy has up there but I do want to point out that the Air Force Space Program or those involved in this disclosure narrative coming from the Air Force - there's been a major shift in that earlier this year. There was a document released that was leaked from the Defense Intelligence Agency and for the first time the Air Force and the Defense Intelligence Agency community -

they were talking about human looking extraterrestrials. This has never happened before with any of the other Majestic 12 documents. None of them have ever talked about extraterrestrials other than Greys but now with this new document that's come forward -now the Defense Intelligence Agency is talking about Tesla and talking about human extraterrestrials that have been – that had entered into diplomatic relations with Eisenhower and so forth so I think what we're seeing is a kind of convergence in terms of the kind of disclosure initiative that the Navy is pursuing and what the Air Force is prepared to accept so that's very encouraging. Because I think that, you know, the people in the Air Force are starting to accept some of the Navy people's narratives.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, interesting. Well, yeah, that is encouraging. Now, Cobra, I know you don't like to talk numbers and percentages and all that… but I just couldn't resist - well from both of you - what's your most recent or last intel on actual numbers left with regards to the Dark Fleet and the Draco Fleet? Like… are they both still significant fighting forces now - as far as low-earth orbit and service is concerned?

MICHAEL SALLA

Right, well, according to Cory Goode’s information that the Dark Fleet has kind of like been decimated because of this kind of solar system wide quarantine that has prevented reinforcements from coming in and that really is just the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate that has been kind of like in the ascendancy as far as the most advanced technologies that the kind of dark side or the Rothschild factions can deploy out there. But, you know, they're losing power I mean what we… what you described in terms of Antarctica in 2016 I think was a big shock to them that there was a human space program that wasn't controlled by the Corporations or the Dark Fleet that was as advanced as them. Yeah this was not something that …

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

And this was Earth Alliance we’re talking about, right? Was it the Earth Alliance that attacked them?

MICHAEL SALLA

Right, that’s correct.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Because that’s the word from the SSP Alliance. You know, the former Solar Warden as I understand it - so that's a big deal.

MICHAEL SALLA

That's right, yeah. The Navy’s Solar Warden program just operates in deep space - they don't have any kind of meaningful role to play as far as what's happening around the Earth. That's typically been…..you know, the Air Force is the main of operations but the Air Force doesn't have any kind of technology to counter what the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate can do or what the Dark Fleet has been doing and so they kind of had free reign to come and go as they please but now with this Earth Alliance the thing….the dynamic has changed significantly.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah. Go ahead, Cobra.

COBRA

Okay, I will not put any numbers…. for obvious reasons…. the reason I don't want to give any numbers is we are not the only ones listening to this show and some of the information is sensitive but I would say there will be more and more focus on the Low Earth Orbit operations - a lot will be happening in the Low-Earth orbit and it will become more and more public. Various interest groups, various factions will put… will want to put their presence there because it’s the last line of defense before the planetary liberation. So we will see a lot of news about that in the near future and various so-called Secret Space Program factions will begin - and have to begin - to communicate with each other and because much more and more of this is already revealed. It's been leaked and released to the general population so also people in various positions within those programs are forced by the situation to begin to cooperate one way or the other so all this will be part of the disclosure process one way or the other.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, so for now at least the the Dark Fleet and the Draco Fleet, they’re still a significant force in the Low Earth orbit and surface area? Would you agree with that?

COBRA

I would say parts of the Dark Fleet and the Draco Fleet are under the complete command of the Chimera but it's decreasing very fast.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. People appreciate hearing that - not out of fear - but just out of you know this whole thing's been taking a while so for the sake of inspiration and motivation, I guess, which is certainly what Ground Crew Command is all about…Now the Chimera themselves… do they still have any sizeable fleet left or are they only left with portal use or are they the ones that have strict control over the Draco Fleet and Dark Fleet?

COBRA

Okay, they are at the very top. They have a few elite craft and they have some teleportation chambers and that's about it. They don't have much. They tend to be behind the scenes - not directly involved - as much as possible because each time they make an action… they do something…. they are exposing themselves. They’d rather expose their Draco minions and let them do the dirty fight.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yep. Yep. Fair enough. Now, you provided in your last update, Cobra, that a significant portion of the Chimera group - I mean it was down to 80 like a month ago or something I think you said and then your last post … a significant portion have been taken off planet by the Light Forces. If that's the case, are you allowed to provide any updated numbers on how many that’s left…that are still at large?

COBRA

Again, for obvious reasons I will not give a new number but I would say the group …. you know, the toughest ones, are remaining for the end so we have now a very tough, very small group, which is technologically at the very top and uh… but they will be dealt with summarily one way or the other as well. But I will not give any estimate…any numbers or any time frames….for various reasons.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah, well done. Now, do either of you know if the lower level MIC SSP and the US Navy are working closely and or directly with the Galactic Confederation yet? Let alone the former Solar Warden aka SSP Alliance?

COBRA

Okay, I can speak for the Pleiadian Fleet. The Pleiadian Fleet is in direct contact with Putin and top military brass in Russia. And this is now the only country that has a direct communication link. There are plans to do this in China as well but in the United States the situation is a little bit difficult because there is simply too much infiltration in all the groups so the Pleiadian Fleet is very careful. They do sometimes transmit warning messages to certain factions that they go too far - but that’s about it at the moment.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, fair enough. Go ahead, Michael.

MICHAEL SALLA

Yeah, according to William Tompkin’s information - I mean - he's…. he was saying that historically there was very close co-operation between the the Nordic extraterrestrials and the Navy and that currently the Nordics are helping the Navy develop their new generation of space battle groups that Bill Thompkins said…. that currently there are eight space battle groups that are part of the Navy Solar Warden program out there. These were developed in the 1980s and have been refurbished but a completely new generation is being built - in the 2030s it’s projected to be deployed - and that they had been built in full cooperation with the Nordics who have been helping the Navy and so I think that that relationship is very close. The Air Force Secret Space Program…. they have been working closely with the Reptilians with the Greys with the Fourth Reich so that is a much more limited program, as I said. Limited to Earth Operations. And I agree with what Cobra has said that's definitely the information I've been getting about Putin working with this Nordic Group. As well that he's been given advanced technology and that this has been why the Earth Alliance has developed such advanced technologies to parallel what the corporations were secretly able to build down in Antarctica.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay.

COBRA

Okay, here I have something to clarify. The Pleiadians were… had a strong cooperation with the Navy Secret Space Program starting in the 1950s and going on until 1996. Then there was the Archon Invasion and that connection was broken. The link was broken. What they are doing now is that they are….they have a certain channel of communication that I will not discuss how they do it… but they do… they have a way of providing intel to certain people within the Navy but this link of communication is different. It's not the same as before…. The structure… the way how they influence positively the Navy Secret Space Program is different now.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. I just want to… because I know people are curious just to orientate their minds about what kind of command structure exists in relation to the Galactic Confederation, the US Navy… also referred to as the… you know… SSP Alliance, and the lower level MIC SSP that you've been alluding to as basically the Air Force. They’re all…are they still working independently with regards to the Air Force MIC SSP and the Navy US Navy SSP? Are they still very independent or does one sort of influence the other?

COBRA

So, as I said the Navy Secret Space Program receives intel from the Pleiadians and guidance from the Pleiadians and guidance from the Galactic Confederation but it’s not direct. It's not like a command structure. It’s more like an inspirational guidance. The Air Force does receive… its more in the grip of the Chimera Group. I would say that many of the remaining Chimera members are positioned within the Air Force - US Air Force - and also in the militaries of other countries…. you can find them even in China and Russia as well - you need to know that….the Secret Services… But the chain of command is more direct from the Chimera group to certain top brass personnel in the Air Force. It's more like a direct command structure. And of course the Greys, the Reptilians, the Dracos were more involved in that program in the past and now as their numbers are diminishing their power is diminishing. It's more like a direct transmission of power from the Chimera to the top brass in the Air Force.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, interesting. I want to get a…sorry, Michael, go ahead.

MICHAEL SALLA

I just wanted to add I agree with what Cobra has said there. I just want to add… or emphasize what I said earlier that, you know, there is this development with the Air Force Secret Space Program - through this document that was released earlier this year - the Defense Intelligence Agency document, where this new narrative is emerging now of the human looking extraterrestrials actually having worked with the Air Force… having been involved in diplomatic relations. So they're presenting a new narrative and I think that's because there are those in the Air Force hierarchy who have now thought that while the way disclosure is going to be rolled out is going to be one where the emphasis is going to be on human looking extraterrestrials as being presented to us… that the whole kind of alien invasion scenario - that doesn't have any likelihood of succeeding - so they’re going to roll forward with this human looking extraterrestrial and a disclosure process… and the question is going to be whether the Air Force is going to work with that kind of…the Vatican and the Jesuits… in rolling out a group of human looking extraterrestrials who really aren’t allied with the kind of more positive Confederation or whether it's going to be something that is a genuinely positive Confederation group. You know, Cory Goode thinks that the Vatican is ready to disclose a group of human-looking extraterrestrials that are part of the Confederation. I question whether the data can… would really do that but I definitely think that that's a possibility.

COBRA

I would say that the Pleiadians will not do that and the Confederation will not do that. They will not address humanity through the Vatican. The Vatican of course will need or will go along with that full disclosure process because it will have to but I would say that the positive extraterrestrial races are contacting anybody they can in any ways they can because they would like to see this planet free so people in all walks of life everywhere are being contacted telepathically, energetically, and they will be contacted physically as well when the time comes.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah, I was gonna say regarding the Vatican … for obvious reasons they have to be watched really damn closely and I'm sure that plan exists … the plan that you talk about or what they're talking about in the Air Force, Michael, but I'm just concerned … I'm not sure how well they know the Vatican … how well they know Jesuits. And I'm just questioning… yeah… how well they know Jesuits and those in control….go ahead.

MICHAEL SALLA

They actually… actually the Vatican has been working with the Air Force for a long time on these issues. The Vatican has been, you know, a key force in terms of raising money for the lower-level secret space programs, the black budget money laundering, and a lot of the kind of illicit mechanisms that exist out there. The Vatican has been involved in that. Also, the Vatican has been involved in sharing some of the advanced technologies with Air Force, you know, for example Chronovisor Technology where they can look into the Future. There's a book by Father Pellegrino Ernetti called “The Chronovisor” and that… he describes how the Vatican developed this Chronovisor Technology and Andrew Basiago says that he actually recalls seeing Father Ernetti being honored by the CIA for having played a role in sharing this Vatican developed technology with the CIA so, yeah, the Vatican has been working closely with the Air Force for a long time… which is why I think that this possibility of a kind of like a human-looking [extraterrestrial] being trotted out as, you know, disclosure process sanctioned by the Vatican and by the Air Force is a real possibility. Whether it's a positive group or kind of an impostor group, that's something we'll have to find out.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah, something we'll have to watch… because I'm struggling to trust Jesuits.

COBRA

I would need to say that disclosure – real disclosure will not happen through the Vatican. It’s not going to happen.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay well we understand gentlemen that you know it's… it's… there’s quite a few factions involved. I mean it feels like half… you know…. most of the galaxy's representatives are here and let alone all the various factions on the Earth, both positive and negative, and it gets pretty convoluted. And I'm sure there's plenty of positive factions that are willing to maybe work with or humor the Vatican and there's other positive factions that I'm sure do not… wouldn't want to touch the Vatican and anything Jesuit with a 10,000 foot pole - and that would be understandable given their history… we'd better move on with… for the audience I want to get a fix on this one thing. Are the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff and General Dunford as their chairman in charge or actually have effective or literal control of the lower-level MIC and the Navy SSP for that matter?

MICHAEL SALLA

No, they don't have any real influence …I mean the Joint Chiefs of Staff is really just the administrative body that doesn't have any effective control over the… you know, there's ten combatant commands all over the planet that the US has and the Joint Chiefs of Staff don't control any of those … they report directly to the to the Secretary of Defense and to the president so the Joint Chiefs of Staff, right, they don't control either the Air Force Secret Space Program or the Navy Secret Space Program. Both of those programs, it's people within who have kind of need to know access in the relevant compartments in the Air Force and in the Navy who are effectively setting the policy for that. And, you know, one of the things that William Thompkins says that he was a part of was that the Navy was using these WEST Meetings … Navy WEST meetings in the San Diego area every year where they would kind of, you know, have a lot of ideas… share a lot of brainstorming and that that would kind of flow into what the Navy planned to do.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Mm-hmm, okay, yeah. Well thanks for clarifying that because people have made something of a hero of General Dunford in particular and - for good reason - he does appear to be a strong leader, you know… a genuine White Hat Constitutional Patriot and … but, you know, we needed to get that information out there in terms of the broader scheme of things in terms of what they actually are in charge of and what they control. Okay, moving on to… let's get to the bottom of this whole thing with the P2 Freemason Lodge in Italy that we're told controls the Vatican. Now is that where… is the P2 Freemason Lodge is that where the heads of the black nobility of the13 bloodline families meet or is it comprised of actual 33rd degree Freemasons that are not members of the thirteen bloodline families and act independently of the bloodline families?

COBRA

Actually this Lodge is just a vehicle for the bloodline families - not the only one - many of the members do belong to the families but many are just regular high degree masons that meet and have no idea what's going on behind the scenes so if you are… for example people who are being… they are climbing the ladder of freemason hierarchy below … before they reach 32nd level they have no idea there is something sinister at the very top they have no idea of the infiltration but then they begin to realize what they were getting themselves into and the P2 Lodge is just one of the instruments - one of the vehicles - that the real Archon families use… they have other secret groups also in Rome where they meet more openly.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. The 13 bloodline members? The so called descendants of these pre-Adamite giants, right?

COBRA

Yes.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, fair enough. Now are they above or below the Jesuits?

COBRA

The real Archon families are above the Jesuits… the Jesuit organization is one of their creations, like the Inquisition was one of their creations, like Knights of Malta are their creation, for example.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

I see. Understood. Thanks for that clarity. Committee of 200…. what state are they in now?

COBRA

Again, this is just one of the parties that organizes the Cabal… like the Trilateral Commission…. like there are different groups that are interconnected… and this is how the Cabal networks. They have networks like you have trade unions, like you have many other networking groups on the positive side. They have their own networking groups….it’s not…there is not one single group at the top that controls everything - it's a network - it's an interconnected network.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, fair enough. Okay, moving on. Cory has been saying that the Cabal have been having trouble using the AI recently to calculate probable timelines … where they would always cut off positive timelines just before the planet got on to them through whatever means they had at their disposal - one of them being false flags. Do either of you have any recent info about that situation where they influence timeline selection?

COBRA

They have had problems with this since 2012. The problems will continue because they don't understand the Light. They don't really grasp that Light will be victorious… that this is going to end and they will not be able to understand until it's over.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay, Michael, do you have anything on that before we move on?

MICHAEL SALLA

Right. I think it's because we are entering this region of the galaxy where there's more higher level cosmic rays coming in raising consciousness - or at least accelerating consciousness where, you know, people depending on their orientation either become more positive or more negative. That is probably one of the factors for why this kind of technology isn't successful as in being able to predict timelines and therefore makes it harder for the negative groups to be able to anticipate what the … what the positive changes are coming down.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

And basically messing with their ability to cut it off from the past, so to speak, just before the planet goes on to that positive timeline as I understand it. Okay, now there's been quite a few interesting … let’s just say … comments, remarks… by, well, for example, David Wilcock and his recent post … summation of it is that this is the quiet before the storm, We've got Fulford’s sources and even Trump alluding to saying that something big is coming up. Julian Assange’s recent tweet releasing just encryption keys and also Sean Hannity from Fox News saying there's going to be a major announcement… What is this? Does any of this have to do with the big Luciferian build up to their most high holiest day being Halloween and November 4th … and other positive factions trying to beat them to it by doing something … let’s just say … very significant?

MICHAEL SALLA

There's different ways of looking at this calm before the storm. I know one of the things that Trump was briefed on is that that the lower level secret space program has assembled a lot of its military assets over North Korea and is prepared to take out their military infrastructure very, very quickly. I mean, the air war against Iraq took about three weeks to kind of degrade the air defense system of the Iraqi nation or the Iraqi military. They’re gonna have to do the same thing to North Korea but within … in a matter of minutes … and so there … you know, what Trump was briefed on was kind of like Rods of God technology, Mazer satellites, kind of like directed energy weapons and other kinds of advanced weapon systems that he would just obliterate the military arsenal that North Korea had. But of course - and that would actually be a way for the secret space program - the lower level - to be revealed - but of course, you know, that's not really a very desirable way of doing it. But that's, I think, what Trump meant by this calm before the storm.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. Cobra, what do you have about this?

COBRA

Yes, I would say that many things are being prepared behind the scenes. I'm not allowed to talk about it - but this autumn will be very interesting, very dynamic. A lot of things happening, both on the good side and on the bad side. There will be many surprises. I would just say you need to stay calm and centered… whatever happens… and be prepared for everything. And at this point I have to go so I would like to thank all of you gentlemen for this interesting interview and I wish everybody the best and… Victory of the Light.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Thank you very much, Cobra, for your time. We do appreciate it. And let's just finish off, because this is a great segue into the true power that we hold without realizing it … without fully grasping it. And that is a fundamental energetic phenomena of when we travel to the non-physical planes from our physical bodies - that we actually have a lot more power then what we would otherwise if we were to, you know, die physically and then just be on the plasma plane or etheric plane alone. And it's something that, you know, I've found out through my own experiences, as well - and the analogy that's been brought up by the late Julien Wells was how Superman when he left his planet - and as well as some bad guys in one of those movies the… older ones from the 80s… were chasing after him and they all came to Earth and they found that they had these amazing powers, being in a different realm. And I also found out not too long ago that the critical healing technique of soul fragment retrieval is something you can only do while you're still in the physical - or from the physical - and so what I'm trying to get to on that is, you know, we surface light workers still have massive potential with some basic training we can learn to project that consciousness out onto the physical … and out onto the non-physical planes and just really use what’s innately in us – what’s still under-utilized - which is what the 144,000 reactivation campaign is centered around. So the…. first of all, Cobra, because you know so much about the non-physical aspects of things… what do you have to say about that?

COBRA

Yes, the key to our power is to connect the physical and non-physical to bring the plan - to bring the Light - which is already existing in the non-physical through all the planes, piercing the plasma, anchoring into the physical body, and doing our missions. The 144,000… we were born with a mission. Each of us has a mission. Do it. Carry it out and we will be successful - and we will be victorious. Victory of the Light - and thank you.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Brilliantly said, Cobra, and Michael, any last words?

MICHAEL SALLA

I feel that our power to collectively manifest the reality of our highest dreams is becoming something that is within grasp of us as more and more people embrace the information that has been shared here tonight and through the internet and videos and so forth discussing all of this information as more people realize just how fundamentally important it is to engage with this level of information then we are going to collectively come together and manifest something that truly is quite amazing and I'm looking forward to that. And thanks for putting this show together and getting Cobra to be a part of it.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Yeah. Well likewise, Michael. Please keep on doing what you're doing and it was a real pleasure meeting you at the solar eclipse conference in Mount Shasta… what was it… August 21st? At the full disclosure solar eclipse – whatever it was called. I kept on forgetting the full title of that particular conference with Corey Goode. And by all means stay in touch if you have anything else new… interesting… or any updates. And thanks again for your time.

MICHAEL SALLA

You’re welcome. Aloha.

THE UNKNOWN LIGHT WARRIOR

Okay. Aloha indeed. And that was Michael Salla of Exopolitics Institute - Exopolitics.org. Micheal if you’re still on the air…just give your website out. I believe it’s Exopolitics.org – I believe that’s correct – and of course Cobra’s website - 2012portal.blogspot.com - and folks, there you go. I promised you it was gonna be a whirlwind of a discussion and interview and that we were going to ask the biggest questions and go deep - and indeed we did that - so this is the Unknown Light Warrior. You’re listening to Ground Crew Command Radio. I'll see you on the other side of this short musical break for the news portion, so stay tuned…..

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